Simple, you need to make the inner layers leak. Cut/tear/puncture the inner layers. Lots of small slits from a razor, or holes from a Wartenberg pinwheel are ideal. If you are a major geek like me, you also consider which diapers to layer where- Some are great at holding their shape, some hold a lot, some are better at containing floods, some are big enough and/or look nice and/or are sturdy enough to be a top layer.
I’m currently using the Seni v4 Quattro as my main diaper of choice. Comfortable, holds a lot, and it’s cloth backed, not plastic. I am also using the absorbency plus booster pads (though I’ve used the Abrilet maxis in the past, I just like these better because they have a sticky side to hold them in place). I also use Seni active super plus pull-ups over top of the diaper. I’ve tried almost every diaper on xpmedical.com, but if there are any you recommend for serious long term wetting/flooding, I’m always trying new stuff. And thanks for the advice! I’ll definitely give that a shot. Sounds like my mistake was expecting one long cut lengthwise down the middle to be enough. Also, any suggestions on where to look into getting some super absorbent cloth diapers? I’ve never worn those, and would like to try them.
Abenas are great overall, but get lumpy near your legs if you layer them. The cloth-backed Abenas have one advantage over the Quattros which is the “second chance” tapes which makes re-using them easy.
Molicares excel in 2 ways. They are the best overall at containing flooding due to tons of fluff, so the are great as base or early mid-layers. Thier plastic-backing is also quite stretchy, so they make a great top layer.
Re-using is the ultimate solution to fully soaking a ridiculously-thick diaper. Basically, you save un-soaked or lightly-used diapers from one mega-diaper, and re-use them for your next.
If you aren’t squeamish about being a little ripe, you can save mostly or fully soaked mid-layers that are still in good shape- e.g. not torn/falling apart/padding getting clumpy. When you re-use them, start with a fresh base layer (to protect your skin from stale piss), then use them as layers in your next diaper. I’v even frozen layers to keep them for future use.
Final hint for today- you can’t fully soak a disposable (or layered disposables) without leaking a bit. Even the best diapers are only so-so at wicking moisture to the back and sides of a diaper. Topping a huge layered disposable with thick cloth and plastic pants is the ultimate solution. The cloth diaper will soak up the leakage from the crotch & legs while you work on soaking the back and tops of your disposable layers.
Wow, looked at the cloth diaper site. Definitely gonna have to do some research on those to know how to use them, and what size/thickness/material/etc to get. With disposables if I mess up something, at least I didn’t spend a ton of money, and there are small sample packs to try. This is more of an investment…
Quality cloth diapers are expensive for sure, but don’t stress too much. Unlike disposables, they last a long time if you take decent care of them. As with disposables, you need to layer them to get a really nice ridiculously-thick diaper, so over time you’ll probably get a little collection of them. If you but a cloth diaper that’s a little small, or thin for your liking, it can always be used as a stuffer. If you get one too big for normal use, you can always use it as a topper on top of a huge layered disposable. You will spend $$, but don’t worry too much about wasting $$.
3 factors contribute to being a good diaper for re-use. The fluff is important- if it clumps up and sags it’s no good. How you handle the wet diaper is important- if you lay down and take it off carefully, fold it in half and carry it flat you can help keep the fluff in place. If you carry it hanging from the waistbands, any wet diaper will sag and clump. High-capacity but thin diapers (little fluff but tons of SAP) like Tranquility ATN, Tena, or XP Med A+ tend to sag the most.
The backing (outer cover) is key too. Cloth-backed diapers like the Quattros are less likely to tear or stretch than plastic-backed. Diapers with really thin plastic backing will often tear. This is where the Watenburg wheel excels. You can thoroughly puncture the backing, and if you do it in a regular, even-spaced pattern you can minimize how much you weaken the backing. Cutting or tearing slits is just asking for the backing to tear. If you have to cut slits, many short slits in a regular, even-spaced pattern is best; and cut the slits in front (where your tapes will land) horizontally so the tapes won’t pull the slits apart- or avoid slitting that area entirely.
The tapes are the most important. Whatever kind, always carefully fold then back to where they started to protect them from getting stuck on anything or otherwise damaged. Diaper with “second-chance” tapes are best. The tapes on cloth-backed diapers can usually be carefully peeled off and work at least one more time, at least for mid-layers. Diapers with a plastic landing zone like ABUniverse Simple/Space, Tena, & TotalDry X-plus are good because they are reenforced, and you can usually pull the tapes back and re-use them (especially the UBUniverse diapers- they have truly excellent tapes). And if all else fails, clear packing tape on top works wonders!
http://www.dmponline.com/sample-pack-2 has some of them, and a very reasonable price- actually cheaper per-diaper than getting a full bag for the high-end ones. But (except for ABU), the brands available from XP are better- I just mentioned the others as examples. ABUniverse diapers are very much a niche product, and so samples are very expensive. They are grreat diapers, so I’d suggest springing for a full bag at least, or maybe even a mixed half-case (https://www.abuniverse.com/Mixed-40-Packs_p_161.html). Much cheaper when you buy them in decent quantity.
Any opinion on the Dry 24/7 max briefs on xp?
Dry 24/7s pretty good. In same absorbency category as ABU Simple/Space, Bambino Bellisimo, & Fabine. I like them because they don’t have a plastic landing zone in front (like the ABUs), so they look natural as a top layer, and are stretchy enough to make good-fitting mid layers. But without that front plastic landing zone layer, they can’t hold up to their weight if you fill them up- the weight of the soaked stuffing will just tear the backing or the tapes. For use as a top layer, I would recommend using clear packing tape on top of the diaper tapes. As a mid-layer/soaker, they are basically the plastic-backed equivalent of the Seni Quattro- excellent as long as you can hold them in place with good strong top layers.
Maybe a couple of times when I was just piling on literally every diaper I had. Don’t normally use pullups by themselves in layers- it doesn’t work very well. They can be useful on top of a few layers of briefs to hold things in place (assuming they’re tight enough).
Mainly it’s that the shape gets weird, no longer looks like a diaper. Layer after layer building up in in the crotch brings the waistband down- eventually you’re wearing a coccoon, not a diaper. And yes, no possible way you can soak that many layers unless you use previously-soaked diapers or go for a swim, lol.